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Thu, Apr. 15th, 2010, 04:15 pm
~masstreble's submission statistics

Okay. Here's a post in the theme "The Things I've Learned".

A certain somebody that I fanboi over with giggles and squeals and little hearts and sparklies over follow the works of in the manner of a dignified gentleman of like-minded interest conducted an experiment in which the experimenter started a Furaffinity account with a specific theme in mind: quick works executed in experimental kinky themes, usually lackadaisically commissioned for booze money in groups. After about a year of this, the experimenter compared the viewing statistics of the experimental account with her much longer running and substantial personal account.

I'll be brief with the results. She found that peeps loved her experimental account, and it had like lots and lots and lots of views and faves and comments and stuff compared to her other account, at it gets even more interesting when you keep in mind how comparatively young the experimental account was.

You could write mountains about that result, or only a few words, depending on your personality and attitudes.

This all came to mind just now, because I glanced at my own statistics page out of curiosity. I submitted something for hyperhumpday yesterday, and I come back to check on it now to discover that it's by far the most beloved thing I've done. It's got like hundreds of views, and counting, and more favorites than anything else in there.

I'll admit I did a few things for it's benefit. Icons that broadcast the intent of the piece, basically trying to hook on the reader's specific interests, those are effective, and I'll bet I'm getting a lot of views just on that. Also, it's in a theme that people are going to be keyword-searching for, so it'll continue to get interest for months into the future. The icon is only getting it some views, though. If nobody minds me tooting my own horn, it isn't a badly done piece by my standards, and it was fun to do, to. I learned Inkscape with this, so even if it bombed, hey, still worth my time, right?

(More discussion humorous caffeine-fueled rants on Inkscape and Adobe Illustrator stuff later~)

Actually, there's more than that to be learned from just naively comparing hit stats on my weird junk!

Specific novelty concept stuff gets a high hit-to-view ratio. I guess if you're trying to get popular, you can only hope they go viral, or that the one you have the idea for it fun to do.

People fucking LOVE color. When things are competing for their attention, color tends to win a lot of points.

Comics, no matter what, generate curiosity. Also, people who like comics, like more comics. What I mean by that is that people who pay attention to comics seem to pay a lot of specific attention to comics. Seems obvious, right? Well, I would say so, to, but the extent of this effect is further than you would think. There seems to be something of a comic-loving tribe on FA.

SO!

The point of this is not to help me with my skills, per se. I mean, I'll admit I get a little chill up my spine and a little fluttery happy in my heart when I get a fave or a comment, as silly as that is. I like making people happy. More than that, I just like to interact with people. Also, it's a taste, a very small taste, of success. My light at the end of the tunnel. Num num num.

No, what this whole experiment that I started months ago, including the devil-may-care posting absence from it I did for a month and a half or so, was to poke and test at how the FA community functions, how it works. This is like a sandbox attempt to understand, maybe, how larger and different ones work. I guess this whole thing is making me sound tremendously cynical, treating this all like it's a game to be played and won rather than just innocently engaged in. Really, nearly every successful artist has played their little community like it's a game, and they won. I'm not looking to be the next popular artist, I'm looking to one day be some happy weirdo that gleefully draws weird stuff as a job and totally gets away with it.

By the way, link for context: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/3706797/ Careful:NSFW for some serious wang.



So, what's Salvador Dali going to do today?
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Fri, Apr. 16th, 2010 07:08 pm (UTC)
masstreble

Yeah, it's like "NOBODY CAN STOP ME!!! BWA HA HA"

Fri, Apr. 16th, 2010 03:16 am (UTC)
shatterstripes

It didn't *start* as an experiment. It started as just "posting some vaguely naughty stuff I drew when I was feverish". Then it lay fallow for most of a year, except for me intermittently logging in and thanking everyone for the watch. Which is an ongoing social experiment in and of itself...

I've never done thumbnail icons; I like to get a sense of what I'll be clicking on in terms of color and composition!

Fri, Apr. 16th, 2010 04:55 am (UTC)
krinndnz

I think they're essential for stories, though; also I can't abide that little "STORY" thingy, much rather have a little relevant thumb.

Fri, Apr. 16th, 2010 07:17 pm (UTC)
masstreble

Oh, yeah. It's a superficial layer of polish that separates a shiny hardback with a cool graphic jacket and an unpublished manuscript. Well, to the psychology of the casual viewer, anyhow. I guess we get enough artists collaborating with writers and pretty soon we'll be looking at comic Armageddon. All for a want of audience. What have we wrought?!

Anyway.

The way that FA handles text files is in need of overhaul. I prefer to read them in a different environment, instead of FA, so I usually download them. This means that I don't want the whole thing loading all the time. It would be nice if it were stashed behind a 'spoiler' tag, at the last, which can be collapsed and expanded at the user's whim.

Then again, I say the same thing about any comment section once it gets more than ten comments. Sometimes, you just want to blow the whole community thing off, you know? Plus the performance issues, and it might do a little good for FA to perhaps hold onto the army of little trendy animated icons unless they're requested.

Perhaps it would be best if I didn't discuss features that I wish FA had. That's a long and winding road to nowhere.

Fri, Apr. 16th, 2010 08:57 pm (UTC)
krinndnz

Perhaps it would be best if I didn't discuss features that I wish FA had. That's a long and winding road to nowhere.

Actually, I can think of a perfect place to discuss features that we wish FA had.

Fri, Apr. 16th, 2010 09:44 pm (UTC)
masstreble: Consider me formally interested.

Oh my. From what I can gleam of this project, there's some serious savvy and sophistication going into it. However, I'm having trouble answering one simple question:

What is Blue Taboo?

Furthermore, the question has some children, including, what is the scope of the project, how inclusive is it, and so on. You seem like the right one to ask, as you are apparently in it neck deep.

Fri, Apr. 16th, 2010 07:06 pm (UTC)
masstreble

Shhhhhh, I know; I'm trying to make you sound like an awesome overmind. ;]

There's a lot of thought to put into thumbnail icons. On FA, the user can mouse-over to get a baseball card of the image, which is something that I haven't seen other gallery sites do. I'm not sure how I feel about it myself. The little thumbnail of the whole image can also deceive about the intentions of a piece, because so much information is lost, especially with more complex pieces, but that certainly isn't true of simpler stuff and the like.

Hmm. I don't know. Perhaps I shouldn't dwell too much on it!

Fri, Apr. 16th, 2010 04:56 am (UTC)
krinndnz

Two things: we think in similar channels, I'm working on a project to measure some of this.

The second: you'll get more of a response out of things that are easy to respond to, and oh boy, is porn easy to respond to sometimes.

Fri, Apr. 16th, 2010 07:23 pm (UTC)
masstreble

Ooh, alpha channels or paths? I'm kinda strange that I often find myself using both a lot, but the paths don't come out in the GIMP unless I'm getting kinda fancy.

Ahem.

Yes, it might be that porn is universal and it does attract attention, but I think a lot of folks are using FA as a porn delivery vehicle. Or at least an erotica delivery vehicle. Everyone probably does a little bit of cruising for things Relevant To Their Interests on there, but some people seem to be doing exclusively that. That doesn't bother me at all, I'm happy they've found suitable means to do that, and I'm happy to be of assistance. Just wish I'd realized it a little sooner.

Sat, Apr. 17th, 2010 02:34 am (UTC)
ghostangel

With some exceptions, I find that people at least in my circle of fandom ignore my more artsy stuff (even if its porn) in colour. Sometimes I get more comments on a sketch that took me a half hour.

Sat, Apr. 17th, 2010 07:27 pm (UTC)
masstreble

I've noticed that! I figure it's a different community, different value system sort of thing. It's just their temperament, I guess. The audience I'm working with likes outrageous more than artistic, cel-shaded type aesthetics more than traditional. There are definitely people around that do artistic-minded traditional-approach stuff, and they certainly have an audience, but it doesn't compare to an outrageous cel-shady person at the same level of skill. Me, I have a lot of interests, so... I don't know. I still ended up with a lot people paying attention to me all at once, and all it took was a huge wang and some sweet sentiments. *Shrug* I guess those two combined would make my day too, I guess.

Eh, it's all good. Who am I kidding. I'd do it even if there was no chance of an audience ever period. This kinda stuff just teases my gaming instincts, you know? Like, "what are the rules to this? Is it possible to win? Is it possible to cheat?"