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Wed, Dec. 1st, 2004, 06:17 pm

Does the above image seem kinky to you?

(Other: please explain.)

Fri, Dec. 3rd, 2004 12:12 am (UTC)
raiblu: Re: Correct answer.

Just because I hate to be misunderstood, and I know you share that sentiment. =D In other words, I hope 'almost everyone' didn't include me, because, don't put words in my mouth, biatch. o_O *absolutely without bitterness.*

Dakara... I tend to go on tangents and flaunt my personality because that's the only way it comes out. Look, here comes one now! =D

Kink is a very loose term, so calling things 'kinks' can be a very ambigious thing. Generally with stuff like this, though, yeah, it's a kink. o.o But then...

It also isn't. If you're in a social setting in which this is the standard and the norm, it wouldn't be considered so. And I'm sure, somewhere out there in the universe, it's everyday life. o_O; So in the end, it's ALL ABOUT PERSONAL VALUES, just on a larger scale.

NOW we get down to what you ACTUALLY asked. Linguistically speaking.

You were polling- the root of a poll is based on opinion, not fact. And now the biggie. The term you used- 'seem'- also contains a certain meaning. One thing may 'seem' one way to one person, while it would 'seem' one way to another- in other words, "Seem" is a matter of personal feeling (rather than opinion) rather than base fact. To further this, the way you phrased it put up an invisible (to you).

If you doubt me, I shall consult webster. On the webster.

" 1. To give the impression of being; appear: The child seems healthy, but the doctor is concerned.
2. To appear to one's own opinion or mind: I can't seem to get the story straight.
3. To appear to be true, probable, or evident: It seems you object to the plan. It seems like rain. He seems to have worked in sales for several years.
4. To appear to exist: There seems no reason to postpone it."

And you certainly cannot say 'Does this seem kinky to the universe?' ... Unless you're talking about the like, will of the universe or something.

In other words, you got all of these answers because of the briefness, ambiguity, and true meaning of what you said. Not what you meant. What you said. Wrote, even- that's stronger because it doesn't allow much differentiation. For the answer you were trying to see if came up, it would have been better to say "Is this kinky?" for a more concrete definition.


Chew on this for a while. XD And now that I've made you hate English majors, I'd just like to say, yes, you're right on your conclusion concerning kinks. However, your basis for your conclusion on the psychology of persons... is poorly founded. (God, I sound just like my english professor now. xx; )

To sum this up, as I often do so people don't have to read all of my prattly garbage...

Don't make inferences to my way of thought. n_N I will shoot ya down. And it bugs the hell out of me when people think they have a 'grasp on Rai.'

At any rate, if this turns into a debate, let's keep it friendly. ^_^ It didn't so much scathe me as offer a challenge.


Fri, Dec. 3rd, 2004 12:15 am (UTC)
raiblu: Re: Correct answer.

In hindsight, I'd like to correct myself that I DID in fact give an opinion, rather than a factoid. But remember, that's what you asked for.

Fri, Dec. 3rd, 2004 12:40 am (UTC)
raiblu: Re: Correct answer.

And now I feel some sort of impending guilt. You wont be mad if I spam your LJ page, huh? Well... let me take how I felt and put it into a comparison.

You're taking a test. In class, with a bunch of people, on paper- a test. It doesn't matter what test it is. It's a serious test, even though it's not graded. It defines how you're seen by that teacher. Now, you get this test back.

It turns out there's this question you got wrong. That almost everyone got wrong. Even though you answered truthfully- except one or two people, who got it right. Because they answered a completely different question.

"Why is this wrong?" You ask in your pitiful student voice. Your professor stands tall in all of his knowing pride and says:

"Because you didn't answer the REAL question."

Yes. The one in subtitles so small that they're naked to the human eye. Or maybe it's printed in white ink, on white paper, that doesn't have any vertical identity, or so little that it'd be insane to see. That's the question that you were SUPPOSED to answer. Don't mind that one in big black ink- that wasn't what the professor really meant. And now he's looking down on you because you couldn't pass his mind game.


Okay, now take that analogy, and instead of knowledge, make it your mind's identity. A lot more personal, isn't it? It irked me. And it isn't the first time that something has irked me. No philosophical wounds, though. I'm not mad or anything. o.o At the very least, forgive me, because I'm going into upperclassman analysis paper mode for the upcoming weekend. But please, at least with me, be a little considerate when you proclaim that you've mapped out a part of my psyche. ._.

Fri, Dec. 3rd, 2004 10:14 am (UTC)
alfador_fox: Re: Correct answer.

After re-reading the question, I agree with you that it is rather ambiguous, and could very well mean one's personal opinion.

Consider this, though:

"However, almost everyone here made a different kind of judgement: one of personal values."

I don't see anything there about anyone else's value judgement being WRONG...just different from the "correct answer" Mass was looking for.

Fri, Dec. 3rd, 2004 12:01 pm (UTC)
masstreble: Learning experience.

Yeah, I mentioned the essential failure of the unintended ambiguousness in another comment around here.

That being said, it was fueled by me putting "other" as a choice. Originally, I didn't imagine it would ever be used! I dislike dichotomies, and I wanted to leave it open enough for somebody with a truly interesting thought about the subject. (Which is why I wanted them to comment, as well.) Throw in the "seems" we have disaster!

What a learning experience. :3

Fri, Dec. 3rd, 2004 11:56 am (UTC)
masstreble: Rai shotgunned!

Yaaaagh! Rai shotgunned! XP

But back to the original comment: I agree. I, uh, really made a mistake with that "seems" adamendium. I didn't even mean for it to make it in the question.

However, this was all for fun. What I really wanted to do was show one of the failures of this billboard. It was originally designed to inspire horror in genetic engineering (hence the GE on the image-processed model's bum), but I think without that knowledge, it could have an entirely different effect on many people ("Yum! Milk! ^_^").

Now you know what was going through my head when I made my post. Well, that and "I'd bet a few of my friends would find this picture joyfully dadaistic!"